Bernard:
So Norman are in the Aviva Stadium this morning for the launch of the second-half campaign. Why was this the right time, do you think, to launch a campaign about retirement confidence?
Norman:
If you look at the second-half of a match, it's the business end of a match. So, it's when you re-evaluate how the first half went, set your goals for the second-half, look at the end game. That's exactly the idea of the campaign is to focus on your retirement planning a bit more than you would have in the first half of your life.
Bernard:
So, Norman, you spend a lot of time speaking to brokers. What are you hearing from them about people approaching retirement?
Norman:
It's all about confidence and confidence comes with knowledge. And really that's where the broker plays a pivotal role in dealing with their clients about approaching retirement.
Is there enough in the fund?
What will I do in retirement?
Will my lifestyle change?
Really, it's about empowering the client to make decisions along with the broker.
Bernard:
So Norman, as a coach, our role isn't to play the game for somebody else, it's to give them the tools to play it. And I remember Joe Schmidt used to say, clarity gives confidence. Do you see that the same in terms of broker's role with your clients?
Norman:
Exactly the same, Bernard.
Brokers won't make the decisions for clients. Clients will make those decisions themselves, but it's the coach's role or the broker's role to make sure the client is fully informed. It's not the how, it's the why. It's to give them the full knowledge of why they're doing this, how they're doing this, and how they'll reach the end game as well.
Bernard:
I just turned 50 in May. Obviously, you're a lot further down the track than me. You know, as we get into the second half of our careers. I mean, how important is it to ask the right questions around retirement?
Norman:
Yeah, I am a bit older than you, but does life of the old dog get is what I would say. Certainly, your perspective in life changes the older you get, the closer you get to retirement. You know, health becomes a focus on you. That great phrase don't let the old man in.
Because you're in the second-half of your working career and I'm probably in the fourth quarter of that, it's making sure your plan is on track to deliver what you wanted to deliver in retirement.
Bernard:
Would you ever come across clients who haven't got ahead of it on a 50? I just wondering, is it too late to get going?
Norman:
No. Certainly the earlier the better, but it's never too late to start is what I would say. I would hate for someone to start a pension at 40 years of age, contributing to a pension and not revisiting it until 60 because they're coming close to retirement. It needs to be revisited on a regular basis to make sure it's going to deliver what you expect it to deliver because you don't want to shock at 65.
Bernard:
So, Norman, what's the one conversation you're broker with your clients as they approach retirement?
Help them better understand where they are right now as they come closer to retirement and the choices they're going to have at retirement. So, you know, it's about knowledge and it's about resetting, having a look, making sure everything is on the plan, but it's really, imperative to have those conversations because things change. Knowledge is power, as I mentioned earlier, and
You know, the more knowledge clients have, the more they're in control of their own situation and their own destiny with their pot.
Bernard:
Okay, well, Norman, it's a great campaign and I wish you the very best of luck with it.
Norman:
Thanks very much, Bernard. Thank you.